Princess Kate, Cow?

Photo of Kate Middleton Laughing

And no, that isn’t a fat joke.

What’s got me a little worked up is that Kate Middleton, who graduated from college with honors and had fairly extensive career options in both the fashion industry and the field of photography, has basically been relegated to a breeder.

Yup, talk has turned from her wedding dress to her ovaries before she’s even been a wife for a week.

Fox News’s Dr. Manny Alvarez is just the latest to weigh in on a topic that seems to be on everyone’s mind. Already.

Looking at these two beautiful people, I have to recommend that they have a baby as soon as possible. Why? Well, beyond passing on those top-tier genes, the reality is that Kate is 29 and Will is 28, and this is the ideal time to have a baby – especially if they are planning on having more than one child.

While starting a family right away may seem like a daunting prospect for a newlywed couple – even a pair who has been dating for years, as Kate and Will have – here’s the medical lowdown on the matter:

For a woman, ages 26 to 33 years old are peak times in terms of fertility. After age 35, one tends to have more complications with hormones and ovulation, so fertility-related risks increase.

There are a number of variables that contribute to a woman’s decline in fertility after 35. Among these, include:

-A decrease in the number of eggs

-A decrease in the health of the eggs

-A decrease in cervical fluid

-The presence or onset of other medical and gynecologic conditions related to age, such as endometriosis, high blood pressure or diabetes, which can interfere with conception

Additionally, a woman in her childbearing years has a certain probability of having a miscarriage during her first pregnancy, and that risk increases as she gets older.

How about love?  Happiness?  A chance to revel in the fairy tale wedding that is turning the daughter of a mail order party supply company-owning couple into a real, live, honest-to-goodness princess?

Nope, it’s all about the future progeny.  Jeez Louise.

Okay, here’s the thing.  Obviously, when you’re talking about the British monarchy, it’s exciting to think about the possibilities.  Add in the “Diana’s grandbaby” factor, and of course it’s going to get people gabbing.

I usually watch the evening news with my mother, and she’s been teasing me for weeks about rolling my eyes whenever coverage of the upcoming royal nuptials comes on.  I just don’t get all the hoopla over what amounts to … a wedding. When she started making “an heir and a spare” comments, though, it really got me foaming at the mouth.

I guess I’m just a little disturbed by how quickly a universal “we” are willing to throw away a woman’s identity because of who she’s marrying and how quickly she’ll produce offspring.  It seems to me that this is the kind of pigeonholing that made Princess Diana the anxious lost soul that she was for much of her marriage to Prince Charles.

And we’re doing it again?



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33 thoughts on “Princess Kate, Cow?

  1. You mentioned that she had become an honest to goodness princess.
    Well, princesses are supposed to have babies so that there will be more honest to goodness princesses to carry on the royal line.

     

    Although it really seems like they married for love, they are still members of the royal family.
    As such, they aren’t normal people who can choose whether or not they want to have children.
    So, since the question isn’t “if” it becomes “when.”
    And considering that everything about their ages and female fertility is true, it’s a good question.

     

    I’m not sure this is a case of women being expected to breed, but a princess being expected to carry on the royal line.

    • First, fuck all “royals” and the fops who fawn over them. Though he be a hell-bound Papist, my fantasy is that Guy Fawkes were a successful man and England had fallen in on herself.
       
      Oh yes, they are normal people. We are all people. It’s fools like you who rate and classify people and allow yourself to been seen as lesser. That is what keeps tyranny alive.
       
      POWER to the PEOPLE!

      • I meant that she chose to marry a man who did not choose to abdicate. Therefore, she knows the kind of life she’ll be living.
        She’s required to live under great public scrutiny and produce heirs.
        She signed up for this job.

         

        I don’t recall glorifying her position or her decision. I sure as hell don’t believe in the sanctity of royalty.

         

        But no, they are not normal people.
        Normal people do not live in palaces at taxpayer expense. Normal people do not have newscasters discussing intimate details of their lives on a nightly basis.
        I’m not British. I have nothing to do with their continued tolerance of the Royal family. I kind of think they keep them around for entertainment value. I don’t see what the hell else they’re good for.

        • Taxpayers don’t pay money to the palaces. They have been owned free and clear by the monarchy for a long time.
          The theory is tourism. Theoretically, having royals brings in far more tourism dollars than it costs to keep them. So they do. I don’t know whether that is true, and it’s definitely a difficult claim to evaluate, but it is the theory.
          I don’t fawn over royals. I definitely don’t see myself as lesser. But part of their job definition is breeding – which makes them a different breed than the average english couple.

  2. Cows make me think of milk. I might have gone with broodmare.
    Fact is, she married into the royal family. She is very well aware that part of that is the responsibility to provide an heir. The fact that she chose to marry William after so long indicates that she is well aware of her status and expectations, and has chosen to accept them.
    If she wanted a personal identity, she could have gone into business. She is well aware that marrying a prince meant giving up a lot of that personal identity, and she is obviously comfortable with that choice.
     
    Given the expectation that the two of them will reproduce, it’s not that odd to think about when. And yes, since they are marrying at a relatively older age, if they want to have a few kids, space them at all, and have time available in case of any troubles, it would be prudent to start soon.
    There’s no suggestion here that women in general are nothing but baby factories – just a recognition that it is part of the expectation for William and Kate.
    And any 29-year-old woman who wants to have kids should be thinking about how to fit them in and starting soon.

  3. Men will not be free until the last King is hung,with entrails of the last Priest! I love that quote,can somebody tell me who said it,I forget.

  4. In all honesty, Katie, she knew what she was signing up for. Do you know what Letizia, Princess of Spain used to do before marrying? She was a newsreader. Not any newsreader. Evening news newsreader, the most watched in the country! And now she is just a uterus with nice hair.

    When they get married they know what’s in there for them, and I assume that is exactly why they have been waiting for so long, because they knew the moment they married, a pregnancy would be expected almost straight away. Diana as a completely different case, for they hadn’t been dating for long and she was extremely young. These two are not.

    Furthermore, I don’t care about how their feel over having children less than a year after marriage — they are living at the expense of the tax payer, and their duty is delivering babies.

  5. At their ages, I would think that starting a family would come next. Royal or not, Isn’t that what most people who want children do?

  6. I thought ‘royal broodmare’ was part of the job description. Do I agree with Kate’s importance being tied to her uterus? No. But this appears to be what she wanted, so more power to her I guess.

    • I know, right? Especially since the Queen’s never going to step down (I’m half convinced she’s already a cyborg, a very proper polite cyborg, but a cyborg nonetheless).
      .
      Personally, I think it would be awesome if Princess Eugenie ascended to the throne. Have you seen her outfits? She’s fun!

  7. The fact that they waited so long to marry probably had a little to do with the fact that they would be expected to produce an heir right away.

  8. “I guess I’m just a little disturbed by how quickly a universal “we” are willing to throw away a woman’s identity because of who she’s marrying and how quickly she’ll produce offspring. ”

    Seriously, we’re still using this kind of derogatory language towards women who choose to become mothers? Why would having children after being in a 10 year relationship – most of it living together in one way or another – constitute throwing away one’s identity? I’m sure that William and Kate discussed this at length before they ever discussed moving forward.Do you think he wants a repeat of his mother’s sad life? Kate made an informed decision. I’m a regular reader because of the interesting discussion that goes on here, but I am regularly insulted because of my CHOICE of career. Yes, raising intelligent, caring and productive humans is a worthwhile career choice. I had the big career in securities/brokerage and get many more rewards as a cherished wife and loving mother than I ever had in my former career. I also use more of my education and intellect as a mother than as a city-dwelling career woman. Really. Being a feminist is about CHOICE. Most of you tend to forget that around here. You’re as bad as the conservative, republican Christians you all seem to hold such disdain for. I only hope that my sons will continue to be kinder and more tolerant of others as they mature.

    • Melly, I agree with you and I think many others in the discussion agree, too. It’s easy to cast Kate as a victim, but as you (and others) have pointed out, she didn’t enter into this situation without understanding and knowing what is expected of her. Kate has said herself that she wants to be a housewife (her word, not mine) and I see nothing wrong with that. Now, if people were brainwashing her or holding her family hostage, that would be a different story. But they’re not, she entered into a marriage knowing full-well what she was doing.
      .
      I think most people are reacting to the media coverage and speculation rather than Will and Kate’s decision to get pregnant or not. They’ve been married a week and already the baby watch is on, which seems sensationalistic and tacky. Brace yourselves for months of baby bump speculation.
      .
      I also agree that feminism is about choice and about supporting other women in their choices.

    • No-one suggested that having children would mean Kate threw away her identity.
      The suggestion was that the media’s take on it is that her identity doesn’t exist – not because she might become a mother, but because she married the prince, and is really only interesting to the press as a wife and mother.
      So it’s actually the opposite – not that people here think that she chose to lose her identity, but that it is unfortunate that the media doesn’t see any identity, and rather just sees her as nothing but in relation to her husband.
       
      And I don’t know where you get the idea that your choice of being a wife/mother instead of banker is insulted here. Do you not pay attention to the other people in exactly the same position? We like them much better though, because they actually read what was read, rather than just jumping into being offended.

  9. “I think most people are reacting to the media coverage and speculation rather than Will and Kate’s decision to get pregnant or not. They’ve been married a week and already the baby watch is on, which seems sensationalistic and tacky.”
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    EXACTLY!

    • Thanks for the support, jeneria. However, you ladies must not be married. The moment you get married everyone AT your wedding asks when you are planning on having a baby. Especially your parents (trust me). It may be something to roll your eyes about, but it’s not sensationalistic nor tacky. Just silly human nature. It makes the people, particularly of Great Britain, happy and hopeful to wish for the new royal babes. Everyone in the world could use a little hopeful happiness these days, thus the big to do over the whole wedding.
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      Katie, I forgot to mention the following in my first post. I also take exception to your use of the words “breeder” and “cow”. Really? That is so very offensive to all women. I can imagine what you’d call me knowing I have given birth to triplets. “A bovine breeder that shat out a litter and threw away her career and degree”. Yeah and I carried them to term, too. Must be these child-bearing hips of mine. Moo.

        • I am, in fact, married. But I am known as a rather atypical person with a somewhat atypical relationship among those I know. So I was not asked about children at my wedding. But I am NOT a normal case. Ask some of the more normal marrieds here.
          I would agree that it is fairly normal that as soon as you get married, people want to know when you will have kids. If you go a year or two after the wedding, and don’t have an obvious excuse (like being in school), you can expect the ‘when will you reproduce’ question. I do believe it is as normal as Melly claims.
          My mother asked no such thing, but she knows my thoughts on the subject (even if she’s fully convinced that I will grow out of it).

      • You’re missing the point here again. Katie does not think Kate is nothing but a cow or a ‘breeder’ because she might have kids. Katie has her own kids, and is highly in favour of motherhood.
        Katie is pointing out that the British media is relegating Kate to nothing better than a broodmare, since all they care about is when she will have kids, rather than anything else about her person or her marriage.
        And as a woman, I must note, I am not offended at all by her use of the word ‘breeder’ or ‘cow’ to describe the way the media is portraying Kate.

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