How the “Slut Walk” is Slacktivism at Its Worst

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On Sunday May 15th, the Slut Walk marched its way down Vancouver streets and while I know a number of people who are happy about it — and I know a few people participating — I feel as though I’ve been biting my lip about this whole issue for a while now. And for good reason — it seems as though anyone who opposes this movement is labelled as a victim-blaming slut-shamer instantly. So it’s a rather difficult minefield …

… to walk. With that said, I can’t help but notice that actual information and organization of this event — particularly in Vancouver — seems to be severely lacking. The result being that I think a lot of people are attending this — or watching it, for that matter — just to have an excuse to goof around and wear a costume.

Because really, what does this march achieve? I have seen plenty of protesters out carrying signs that have very clear, very good messages, such as: “Don’t tell me what to wear — tell men not to rape.” That’s pretty straight-forward, strong and instantly comprehensible. What’s less comprehensible is something like the image above — this should be more about pointing out that it doesn’t matter what a victim is wearing, that anyone can be raped and that it is always the rapists who are to blame. Not having an excuse to walk around topless.

But the fact is — and I feel I have to be extremely clear when I make this point, as it’s so easy to flip it around and turn it into a “woman-hating” statement — that it really isn’t a good idea to wear very little clothing in not-so-great neighborhoods in the dead of night. No one disagrees with the sentiment that rape shouldn’t happen, and it should never ever be about blaming the victim. However, the fact remains that the above comment is and should be common sense. And that’s where I think the Slut Walk gets it wrong. There is no point in celebrating our ability to dress like “sluts,” and even the name of the event, I think, diminishes any importance it might be trying to give itself. I have no desire to label myself a “slut,” and I don’t think any woman ought to identify with that term — even in an ironic or cheeky way.

But again, what is this movement actually achieving? Are they raising money to help victims of rape? Are they working with police to bring rapists to justice? To the best of my knowledge, no. So in that sense, is this march any more effective or important than “update your Facebook status with your bra color for Breast Cancer Awareness,” or is it on par with something like ZombieWalk — an excuse to have fun and dress up, but under the pretense that it is working toward a solution to a societal problem that it is not in any way working to fix.



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65 thoughts on “How the “Slut Walk” is Slacktivism at Its Worst

  1. Slutwalk wasn’t started as a movement to raise money, it was started because a police officer told women that they should stop dressing like sluts if they didn’t want to be raped. And honestly, when I read his comments it did come off as victim blaming, and Slutwalk simply was trying to call attention to the monstrous bullshit of a cop blaming victims for crimes committed against them, a cop who should know better.
    .
    Now Slutwalk may be morphing into some sort of craze, a way to get your exhibitionist rocks off with a crowd supporting you, I honestly don’t know if it is morphing or not, but it did have a purpose.

    • I know its origins, and I think the original Toronto Slutwalk had a point. But I was talking (mostly) about this Vancouver version where the organizers and the participants were doing a very poor job of explaining what this was about and what its intent and purpose was.

      The original cop was being a douchebag, yes. And I sincerely hope he got reprimanded. BUT for the mass majority of police officers who aren’t victim-blaming douchebags, I can understand how turning up at a scene to find a young girl screaming and crying because she got raped doesn’t inspire them to say, “Well gee, why’d you dress so slutty?” but might make them examine the scene as a whole and try to better inform young women of ways that they can avoid future assaults.

  2. As i have been saying all along, telling people to take precautions when living in the real world where crime does exist despite our best desires is not victim-blaming, but prudence.
    The fact that most people agree it’s a bad idea to flash a thick wallet in a dark alley without changing the fact that theft is wrong and the thief is to blame suggests people are capable of understanding the concept. But you bring ‘women’s right to do whatever the fuck they want!’ into it, and everyone loses their head.
     
    As for the label ‘slut’, it is a descriptive term for a woman who sleeps with a lot of men. If you consider that a bad thing, it can be a pejorative. If you consider that a good thing, you can be proud of your label. I don’t desire to label myself as a slut because I don’t desire to be one. but if you are one, no reason not to be self-aware.

    • Oh I fully agree that people need to take precautions, don’t go bar hopping alone, never let your drink out of your site, all that jazz. And yes, dressing in a provocative manner can increase your risk, but it doesn’t make rape any less of a crime and I honestly believe that’s what the original message was intended to be.
      .
      I do believe slutty or at least slutty-looking girls do deal with the fact that if something terrible does happen to them, people smirk and believe they got what they were asking for and a police officer is that last person we need to be promoting that image.
      .
      I don’t care if you’re a goddamn porn star, if you say no and someone perpetrates such a disgusting, painful, scarring act of violence on your person as rape you deserve to get the same damn treatment by the police as the virgin down the street.

    • Exactly — that’s the perfect comparison. You don’t hear rich people getting up in arms if someone says, “Well, don’t wear an LV bag in a dark alleyway if you don’t want to get robbed.”

    • Kai said: “As for the label ’slut’, it is a descriptive term for a woman who sleeps with a lot of men. If you consider that a bad thing, it can be a pejorative. If you consider that a good thing, you can be proud of your label.”
      .
      So you are saying that women who sleep with a lot of men are sluts? What an incredibly sexist thing to say. And I disagree with your ignorant statement.
      .
      Women who sleep with a lot of men are simply not interested in a long term relationship and want to have fun. But I don’t label them or assign names to their behavior.
      .
      I am a happily married woman in a monogamous marriage and with a baby on the way. But I have several girlfriends who you would consider to be “sluts”. They are not interested in my kind of lifestyle and I respect that and I never put them down for it. I just remind them to use protection to prevent STDs and pregnancy.

      • Yes, that is exactly what I said. And I didn’t say it was a bad thing, and I didn’t say they were looking for a long-term relationship.
        I am saying that ‘slut’ is a descriptive term for a person who chooses that behaviour. Some women are trying to ‘reclaim’ it as an ‘empowering’ term, which is dumb. It is neither demeaning nor empowering. It is descriptive. It’s only an insult if you consider indicating that a woman sleeps with a lot of men to be insulting.
         
        It also isn’t sexist, as it simply doesn’t address men at all. It is a term describing a type of woman, unrelated to what men are called.
        You’re off base though in your description. A ‘pimp’ is a descriptive word for a person (usually male) who acts as the business manager for a prostitute. A man who sleeps with a lot of women is not a pimp, and I’ve never heard anyone call a promiscuous man a pimp. I have heard men called sluts, and often they aren’t called anything in particular.
        But what men are called, and whether men and women are judged on the same standard is still a separate issue from ‘what makes a woman a slut’.

        • For people in their twenties, “pimp” is used to describe a man who sleeps with women in a congratulatory way pretty often. Just because you personally haven’t heard it doesn’t mean it’s untrue.

          • Is it actually that widespread? The classic complaint has always been that compared to women as sluts, men were ‘studs’.
            My point was more that that too has another actual meaning.

  3. I was all geeked to do a Slut Walk here in Milwaukee until I heard a number of my male students talk about how it was going to be great to look at women dressed as sluts. They totally missed the point. But then, that’s the point of this article, that the Slut Walk itself has veered off from its original purpose. My female students mostly want to do it because it’s like Halloween and, oh, it’s raising awareness and stuff.

    • Many females want to do it because many females want to be sluts. As is evidenced every Hallowe’en , because women think that it’s a do-what-you-want-without-consequences day. “Yay! I can dress as slutty as I want tonight, and people will still respect me tomorrow!”*
      here we have “Yay! It’s for a cause! You can’t judge me!”
       
      The men got it entirely. When women dress slutty, men enjoy it. Women who figure they can dress like a slut and see no consequence in the way men look at or treat them are delusional. It’s up there with the topless walk where women complained that men were checking them out and taking photos.
      We live in the real world. Living as though you were in the dream world you wish for doesn’t tend to go well.
       
      *note that the ‘no consequences’ is what is believed, not necessarily what actually happens.

      • @Kai,Thats interesting,the perspective on the Halloween costumes,never really thought about it,but its true. It does equate with the old double standard of a sexually active man is a desirable stud,whereas a woman is a slut,but both are popular and desired none the less. But if your a dude and single its accepted,but a woman is still cheap and amoral,I guess its still a mans world. If the world doesn’t end tomorrow,we’ll still live in a moralistic mans world.

        • The old double standard made sense in an old time in which the value a man brought to the marriage was very different from the value a woman brought to the marriage.

          I think it is fully acceptable for a man OR a woman to have sex with a lot of people. But I don’t find either one cool for it.
          A guy having some sexual experience wouldn’t bother me, but I don’t have any desire to just be # 25 or whatever.
          I think society excuses male promiscuity, but I don’t think it celebrates it in most circles.

        • As for Hallowe’en, a lot of women want the power that comes from sexuality but none of the repercussions. Many women believe that ‘dressing up’ means ‘dressing slutty’. I think that what you choose when you think you can get away with it shows what you would choose in life if you thought you could get away with it.

          • And why should there be any repercussions to dressing in a sexy manner? A woman is an ADULT not a child. There shouldn’t be any repercussions or punishments. It’s her business to dress however the hell she wants. I am a geek nerd and my style is considered nerd chic. But I don’t care what women wear and I don’t criticize them for it.

          • There are repercussions to everything everyone does in life.
            I’m not saying there’s a sexy police that walk around slapping the wrists of women wearing short skirts.
            You are correct, that a woman has every right to wear whatever she wants. I don’t disagree. but there are repercussions to the ‘what to wear’ choice, just as for every other choice an adult makes.
            The primary repercussion is in how a woman is viewed. When a woman chooses to ‘dress sexy’, and shows off a lot of her body, then her body attracts enough attention that people are unlikely to pay attention to what she says or does – because the sexy is a distraction. A woman who chooses to dress sexily will often be seen as primarily a body rather than a mind. That’s a life choice any woman is welcome to make, but she should be aware of what that choice means.
            Women who think they can have half their boobs showing and still be taken seriously are living in a fantasy world.

          • Totally agree with your post below, Kai. It’s what I’ve been thinking for years, well before Slut Walks, but you risk being lynched if you say it aloud, especially if there’s anyone nearby born after 1980. In fact, I tried to guest post on this subject, but couldn’t figure out how to and never got a reply to several mails I wrote to the editors. Maybe they’ll see this and respond. And while they’re at it, could they stretch the margins of the comments?

          • It would be nice if they would stretch the margins of the entire page. Make the massive purple bars smaller, make the ads smaller, and allow more than 1/8 the width of the page to be used on actual content.
            The massive purple bars are way too huge.
            If there’s anyone out there who is actually still viewing in 1024×768, they can damnwell scroll.

      • Please don’t refer to women as “females.” The term for a female human is woman; to refer to female woman as “a female” is degrading, as if we are animals. It makes you look ignorant.

        • Actually, ‘woman’ is the term for an adult female human. I don’t know the age of jeneria’s students, but there’s a good chance they don’t qualify.
          ‘A female’ is a reasonable term to refer to a female human of unspecified age, especially when discussing behaviours from a removed standpoint. Just like ‘a male’ or ‘the male student’. Very logical when in response to the reference of ‘female students’.
          Second, your concern for my appearance is cute. I really couldn’t care less whether you think I look ‘ignorant’ because I use a term you don’t like. Nice first post!

          • My students are college-aged, but I’m not sure mentally they qualify as adults.

        • As long as “female” is the designation on my license, I think I’ll go ahead and use it to describe people with vaginas.

           

          It’s a lot shorter to type than
          “person with a vagina.”

  4. I dunno, I kind of thought the point of dressing with boobs hanging out for slutwalk was to press the point that “I’m dressed this way and I’m STILL not asking to be raped.” I do see how it has been turned into a dress-up game, though.

  5. I participated in the Toronto one and at that time the VAST majority of women were just dressed in their regular street clothes. The media only focused on the ones who expressed “slut pride” because sex sells. I’m not sure if that’s affected the costume aspect of the subsequent walks, or if the media is only focusing on the costumed women while ignoring those in plain clothes again. Unless you are there, I’d be very cautious about passing judgement on these walks based on the media’s representation.

  6. WOULDN’T THE MESSAGE BE EVEN STRONGER if women wore those fake naked costumes like an Adam and Eve costume where a skin-colored bodysuit goes over their body and a leaf covers their privates?? Or one of those over-sized t-shirts of a naked sculpture like the one worn by one of the girls on MTV’s Jersey Shores in Italy?? Or those tacky hooker costumes with fishnet stockings and faux fur that are more ridiculous and hilarious than they are sexy?? And also if they all carried those large signs “Don’t tell me what to wear — tell men not to rape.” Then this Slut Walk might get the message across more clearly without the women having to objectify themselves.

  7. Slutwalk is evidence that men are smarter than women. Back in the 1960s/70s nudity and sex were the tools of rebellion and liberation, as much for women as for society generally; men took these over, made them mainstream, created an industry from them and propagated them as the symbols of independence and empowerment and means through which the latter are achieved. Thus pornography, prostitution and hooker clothes, in a sense, the “sex industry,” has become the symbol and means for female liberation. In reality, it’s just male dominance of women redefined; whereas some countries encase their women in the burqa, others imprison them in language, imagery and industries of sexual “freedom.” If women really want to shock the system, demand commitment before sex; create healthy relationships based on love. Yes, love, I know how 1940s. Instead, today most women are cheap and easy, and they look it too.

    • Po.rnography has existed since human beings have been creating art. That is to say – for all of human history. I have no idea how you’ve managed to link the liberalism of the sexual revolution to po.rnography, but just because people are naked does not mean they are involved in pron. It’s really sad that people are so apt to jump to that conclusion in the US. I’m in Europe at the moment and nudity is shown on non-cable channels. People here understand the difference between nudity and po.rnography, something that the US has historically had trouble with.
      .
      People have also been having sex without love for all of human history. Prostitution is indeed the world’s oldest profession. Instead of worrying about women who willingly engage in sex without commitment, I think it would be far more productive for you to worry about men who rape without getting consent, and stop telling women what to do with their own bodies.

      • Thank you Shannon. I couldn’t think of a way to respond without using the word “dumbface”.
        It never ceases to amaze me how much trouble the United States has with teh secks. Or nudity. It’s a little bit pathetic.

      • Back when prostitution started (?) — I dispute that it’s the world’s oldest profession. How about undertakers? — women controlled it. Today it’s male-controlled and involves organized crime and trafficking in women. How is that erotic?

    • Men didn’t ‘take them over’. They simply gladly took what women offered, and encouraged women to continue to do things that benefit men (like taking off their clothes). If I offer you a $20, it’s no wrong on your part to accept.
      It is absurd that some women today define their own ‘empowerment!’ based on being sexually attractive to men, but I respect their right to dumb choices.
      A woman (or anyone) should not do anything to ‘shock the system’. If you want commitment, then you should seek it, and likely wait for it before sex. If you want love, then you should seek love. Keeping your clothes on is as useless a political statement as taking them off.
      You have freedom. Do as ye will. Be adult enough to accept the consequences.

    • Marx, I’ve just realized. If today’s women are cheap and easy, how did you come to realize this? Is it through having sex with cheap and easy women? If so, you really have no reason to talk at all, for you are equally as cheap.

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  9. The funny thing about this whole so called “slut walk”, is that what it really shows is how far relationships between men and women have dwindled in the US to any since of coherency. There has never been in any time in history where a woman looking like a “slut” has ever been considered respectable or empowering. Now you very well have the right to dress, talk, and act any way that you certainly choose. But at the same token, don’t be amazed that a man only sees you as a “piece of meat”, and never someone that he would ever consider staying with for a meaningful relationship. As the old folks used to say, “Why buy the cow, when you can get the milk for free!”

    So no; No man has any right to touch any woman’s body without her permission. And no, even if I saw a woman walking down the street with only a skimpy 2 piece bikini, I don’t think she’s asking for it. She can wear what she prefers in the confines of the law.

    However, at the same taken, a woman dressed that way can’t act completely oblivious as to why men would “comment” to her lewdly, or want to grab her. Everybody doesn’t have the same amount of self control and ethics as others. Didn’t say it was right, but I’m talking reality. Have you not seen how “aroused” women get at a bachelorette party with the “right” looking man in all the “right” places. yet some of those women are married. And they can’t show self control, while some women can. Common sense, that’s all I’m saying.

    And believe it or not, IMO, this “slut walk” hurts you women in the worst way. Because all I hear women say over and over is, “I can’t find a good man.” But here’s the thing. Many of those women saying that, are looking for the type of attention that those same women in the “slut walk” crave. So a “nice guy” would never do that, because he has some standards. But this slut walk does nothing but lower women’s standards to pretty much not having any.

    Some women want to be treated as intelligent, and a slut. Or you want a guy that will give you the attention like a slut, because a “nice guy”" is too boring, or you want your “options”. Heard it too many times. That’s why soo many guys don’t care any more, because men have gotten to the point where too many women don’t want to take responsibility for their own actions, and it make it much easier for them to blame a man for something he’s doing wrong in your eyes, to justify that woman’s inadequacies.

    But if a man acted the way some women do, and just say that “you’re too boring”, or “I’m just used to more options”, he’s called a dog. At least by some of you, because most of the ones that want a man like that are the ones that would be in this “slut walk”, but of course I know most women would never admit that, except to another woman.

    Really sad. Glad I married a classy woman and don’t have to worry about this garbage.

    • “However, at the same taken, a woman dressed that way can’t act completely oblivious as to why men would “comment” to her lewdly, or want to grab her. ”
      Note that no matter how a woman is dressed, a man has full right to desire her, to fantasize about her, and to *want* to grab her, but he has no right to touch her without consent.
      Any person who lacks the self-control to refrain from grabbing people in public, no matter what provocation, does not deserve to be out in public.
       
      As stated above, I fully agree with your points on the fact that a woman will be judged according to how she chooses to dress, and she fully deserves to be viewed according to the manner in which she chooses to present herself.

    • “what it really shows is how far relationships between men and women have dwindled in the US to any since of coherency”
      lolwut?
      I understand your point, I really do, and I think it’s entirely valid. In my experience, the women who lament “not being able to find a good man” are idiots who think a good man will buy her shit.
      However…
      Relationships between men and women have dwindled? To being incoherent? Last I checked, relationships in the US are doing just fine, and heterosexual couples can still form meaningful relationships.

      • Last I checked, relationships have become all about the woman, like most things in America. In other words, relationships are no longer about trusting a man to be a good man, or a woman to be a good woman. Now, the difference is that a woman is okay, and a man is not trust worthy until he “proves” himself to be trustworthy to a woman.

        There most certainly is a double standard in this regard. I’ve heard it TOO often from some women. Not all, but more than I would’ve expected. I can’t even look at a commercial on tv without it showing a woman belittling, and or demeaning a man in some regard as being incompetent, insensitive, helpless, or clueless until a woman takes control of everything to save the day.

        And you really think that any man would feel good about himself in the US with this type of subliminal message all the time that you’re nothing until a woman says your ok? I don’t. That’s what is awaiting most men and women going into a relationship in this day in time. Well at least in the US.

        I wouldn’t want to be single again for nothing.

        • The media portrayal of the bumbling incompetent father is rather reprehensible.
          I remember watching a commercial years ago in which a woman looks over at her man and imagines him slimmer, with bigger muscles, more hair, no bag of chips, etc, with a tagline along the lines of “wouldn’t it be nice if you could change everything in life as easily as you can change your hair colour?” I was appalled – could anyone ever imagine a commercial in which a man sat and dreamed about a younger, thinner, hotter wife? It wouldn’t make it to airtime!

        • I think the generalizations you’re making are far too broad. Every relationship is individually characterized, and many women just want an equal partner. Not one who is “lower” or “higher” but an equal voice in the relationship. Sure, not everything can always be divided up equally in terms of responsibilities and strengths, but as long as a man and a woman treat each other as co-pilots, I think both parties can be happy, fulfilled, and not diminished in any way.
          .
          You cannot fall into the mistake of using personal anecdotes and what you see portrayed in the media as an accurate statistical representation of all relationships to use as your reference point. That’s when stereotypes and biased thinking are allowed to creep in to what could be an objective view of things. Obviously we are all shaped in our opinions by our own experiences and worldviews, but insisting that everything must fit in to the way we see the world just doesn’t hold up when quantitative evidence is examined. Relationships are unique based on generation, personality of the individual parties involved and their ideas about gender roles and responsibilities; views which vary quite widely even within small population segments. While there are general trends to be found, they by no means can be applied to every couple or reduced to simplistic explanations like the feminist movement or the media. The complexity and difference between relationships all of the country (and world) shows that there can be no one single explanation for why we are the way we are.

      • Relationships have moved to a point where people marry and divorce on a whim of ‘being unfulfilled’, and where making a third promise of ‘forever’ isn’t seen as ironic. And where many people have babies together, but aren’t sure they’re ready to commit to marrying each other.
        I can see why some people might find cause to lament.

  10. I signed up to do Milwaukee’s Slut Walk in August and I also signed up to volunteer. I think the issue is too important to not and attempt to raise awareness. I’ll let y’all know if it’s Slackerism or if it appeared to do what it claims.

  11. @ Sarah Arboleda said: “I can understand how turning up at a scene to find a young girl screaming and crying because she got raped doesn’t inspire them to say, “Well gee, why’d you dress so slutty?” but might make them examine the scene as a whole and try to better inform young women of ways that they can avoid future assaults.”

    Ummm . . . so do you agree with the police officer then. Should they include “don’t dress like sluts” in their rape-avoidance seminars? or not?

    If they should, then just what specific dress styles should the women adopt to guarantee that no aggressor will ever consider her “rapeable” ?

    • Well hey, I just don’t agree with rape at all. It’s revulsive, and as evil as evil can get, IMHO. Men would probably just as well almost commit suicide rather than to be raped in prison by another man, so I could only fathom how a woman deals with it, even though her body is “anatomically” made to accomodate the opposite sex naturally. Nevertheless, rape is not sex. Same as porn, but that’s another subject…

      Either way, what I don’t get is how low the standards are nowadays that women have. And yes, there are men that are dogs, truly. But I can’t understand what pleasure a woman gets in trying to compete with a low life “dog of a man”, as if it’s liberating to the female gender. How? What does it say about a woman’s mind that she would actually think that she is “proving” her independence and freedom by purposely attempting to “slut” herself up to the public as nothing more than the value of a slut?

      I do believe that a lot of women really don’t understand how some of us men think, and believe that you can have it both ways, and there should be no confusion. When actually, it’s very confusing to many men. Because women that act exactely like the participants of the slut walk, are acting exactely like the role that they say makes them hate men for. You don’t want men to look at you like a piece of meat, but you show all of your “meat”.

      Well, I don’t think police officers should say “don’t dress like sluts”. And it’s especially appalling after a woman has been raped. However, it does remind me a little of how I have heard some people talk about us African Americans when it comes to police brutality/fatalities. “If you don’t dress like thugs or drug dealers, then you wouldn’t have to worry about the police harassing you.”

      Which I say, a person should be able to wear whatever they like within the confines of the law. However, I as an AA man do not, and never have dressed like a thug, because I have enough sense to know that the way things “should be”, and “reality” are 2 completely different things. And even though no incident that occurs to a human being is always predictable, you should at least give yourself better odds for not aiding the increased probability of an unfortunate incident to occur to yourself. Rather than just believing non-chalant that there are no implications to acting out whatever pops into my head. Again, fantasy, verses reality.

      • I think your compairison of “slut dressing” and Afican Americans is a good analogy. Again, no women is asking to be raped and I don’t think how a women dresses matters to a rapist, but it does matter to men in general as to their views of a particular women.

  12. Utah State University Sexual Assault and Anti Violence Information

    Myth: Rape victims provoke the attach by wearing provocative clothing

    - A Federal Commission on Crime of Violence Study found that only
    4.4% of all reported rapes involved provocative behavior on the part
    of the victim. In murder cases 22% involved such behavior (as simple
    as a glance).

    - Most convicted rapists do not remember what their victims were wearing.

    - Victims range in age from days old to those in their nineties,
    hardly provocative dressers.

  13. as muslim
    i believe “slut walk” proves our point exactly …
    You are turning your daughters into prostitutes promoting “sluts” as higher then mothers.

    My God how low did you sink ? do you want to be called filthy words and be seen sleeping with many men without shame and dress shamelessly…if you have no dignity..you attract men without dignity…Dont go to trashy neighborhoods…don’t dress like a prostitute..listen my daughter if you wear clothes and prostitutes is dressed like yourself even lowest one..then there is problem.

    show a example to our young boys and show them you want respect by respecting yourself and not making yourself a “sex symbol”

    IF YOU DONT WANT SEX THEN DONT BEHAVE OR DRESS LIKE U WANT SEX
    men that want sex are attracted naturally to woman that show clothes that are sexual..
    its a fact in marketing…certain clothes are promoted to increase sales and attention.

    this is not a mystery.

    Men are at fault as well but that has to do with education..
    young ladies…you bring up your sons…you have a role to play in teaching your boys to respect girls.

    BUT THE LESSON GETS HARD WHEN YOUR GIRLS ARE SLUTS

    • “Men are at fault as well but that has to do with education..”

       

      It’s nice to hear that you think men are partially responsible for rape.
      Of course, according to you, women are the only people responsible for raising boys to respect women, so I guess rape really is all a woman’s fault.

       

      “IF YOU DONT WANT SEX THEN DONT BEHAVE OR DRESS LIKE U WANT SEX”

       

      For the record, most people don’t think that being raped is the same as having sex.
      Unless there aren’t 4 male witnesses to a rape. Then I guess it’s just sex, right?

  14. and men that commit rape should be punished with death penalty.
    and women should try their best to avoid it

    DONT BE A SLUT AND MAKE US MEN TEMPTED
    DONT DESTROY OUR EYES WITH SEEING YOUR PRIVATE PARTS

    its a fact that women complain of seeing mens private parts and call the police

    • You obviously do not understand the whole point of this movement – do you?
       
      Men do not have the “right” to have sex with a woman based on her manner of dress.
      Period.
      End of sentence.
       
      If, you somehow think that it *is* okay – you need to re-examine your whole moral code because something is seriously wrong with you, your code – whatever.
       
      You are responsible for your own eyes, thank you very much. I find your tone to be a bit amusing – could we perhaps talk about temporary marriage – basically Islam sanctioned prostitution?
      Talk about a double standard.
       
      Tell you what – I’ll leave your beliefs alone, as long as you don’t try to impose yours on me.

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  16. I learned about the Slut Walk through a bisexual community group who were joining in, but not for the issue of WOMEN being “allowed” by society to sleep with whom ever they want without being (at best) called sluts or (at worst) raped. For them it was about BISEXUALS, men and women alike, being “allowed” to sleep with whom ever they want without being stigmatized as “just greedy sluts”.

    • By the way, I ended up not going because I thought Pride Fest & Parade were a better venue for bi activism. I agree with you that Slut Walk has no one clear purpose or statement to be made, so people write their own script over it… kinda like when a woman gets labeled a slut for her activities or dress…

  17. It’s been fascinating working with a Slut Walk organization. The biggest obstacle we’ve faced is the word “slut” in the title. The Milwaukee organization is really invested in Sexual Assault recovery and in raising awareness that our 24 hour rape hotline, for example, isn’t staffed 24 hours or that there are only two hospitals in the Milwaukee metro area that have rape kits available. The work we’re doing is good, but people don’t want to be associated with something with the word slut in it. Funding has been difficult to secure as have community partners.
    .
    We’ve also been under “attack” on our Facebook page from a group called Slutwalk Tehran which appears (according to IP address) to be two American-based men who think that men have the right to do whatever they want to women.
    .
    It’s been fascinating and frustrating.

    • It doesn’t seem all that strange to me. For all the yelling about ‘reclaiming’, it turns out a lot of respectable women just aren’t interested in self-identifying with a word that indicates promiscuity.

  18. I’d just like to add one comment about how young girls actually do see dressing like a slut as empowering…

    I work in the music industry and sadly music bosses are quite happy to ignore talent because sex sells. Young girls adore people like Rihanna, Britney, Gaga and even Madonna who perform mostly crap songs, dressed as sluts. These average talent stars then lead kids to want to dress and act like them, thinking that dressing like a slut is empowering. Katy Perry was smart enough to know that by singing a controversial song and dressing slutty she would get the break she needed to make it and has now moved back to dressing a bit classier. But the fact is that these women are role models for teen girls, the girls see them as powerful and want to copy them and empower themselves.

    I can see why the name Slut walk was coined but most people dont respect the rally because of the name. They see it like the gay mardi gras as an event for exhibitionism and voyeurism.

  19. Kai you are wrong. No matter what a woman is wearing there will be rapists in this world. Rapists do it no matter what- that’s what they are. Women get raped in sweats. Women in the middle east get raped in burkas. The way someone dresses doesn’t have those repercussions. The fact that we don’t execute rapists does

  20. I realize that I am a little late to the party here, as this article was posted back in May, but I just found it now as I was googling info about the Milwaukee Slutwalk, which I just attended yesterday. The walk I attended had the specific goal of organizing women and raising money to create a real rape crisis center here in MKE, because we don’t have one, to help get victim advocates in place to help women (and men) to go through the difficult process of reposting and prosecuting a sexual assault, and to make sure that rape kits/trained staff are placed at all Milwaukee hospitals, instead of just TWO, which is the current standard here. These are pretty specific goals, and I really did not feel that any of the women who attended the walk here were just in it for the joy of “dressing slutty”. There was a lot of hugging, and a lot of tears…even if there really had been girls there who were just “in it for the costumes” as one cynic here in the comment section suggested, they likely would have changed their minds after hearing some of the speakers at our Slutwalk talk about their experiences as survivors. And that would be a good thing, would it not?

    I cannot speak to the Montreal walk, as I was not there, but I think that Slutwalks like the one I just attended are absolutely NOT “slactivism at it’s worst”. The walk I attended was emotional, and empowering for the people who were there, and it has motivated the community to sit up and take notice of the ways in which we are letting rape survivors down.

    As to the use of the word “slut”, I think there is a more powerful message than simply claiming the word as a “positive label.” I think that the walk is useful in helping us begin to question the idea of “slut”-hood in general. By questioning the very existence and usefulness of the word, we begin to address the larger question of the ways in which a person’s sexuality can be used as a tool of freedom or repression, power or coercion. This is a useful discussion to have. I wore my Slutwalk teeshirt today, and it allowed me to engage in more than one useful discussion about the meaning of sex and bodily sovereignty with people I might not have otherwise had this discussion with.

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