Defining what it truly means to be Jerks for Jesus, The Dove World Outreach Center, a non-denominational church in Gainesville, Florida, is organizing a Qur’an burning. The event which they are calling “International Burn a Koran Day,” is to be held on September 11th 2010, interestingly enough.
Under the guise of memorializing victims of 9/11, these bozos are spreading a foul new brand of hate and intolerance.
This event is brought to you by the very same organization that held a rally on August 2nd in which they, oh so originally, named: “No Homo Mayor Rally,” to protest the election of Gainesville’s first gay mayor, Craig Lowe. Classy. Prior to staging the protest, the group fought to dismantle Lowe’s election campaign. I’d like to think that their creepy protests backfired and as a result helped secure Lowe’s election in some kind of divine intervention.
Maybe the Congregation of Dove World Outreach can get together with the fine folks over at Westboro Baptist Church and form a demented bowling league where they can hatch asinine evil plans over fried food and pitchers of soda.
On Dove’s website — which sells “Islam is of the Devil” t-shirts and mugs, they encourage people to attend their Qur’an burning event by saying:
“On September 11th, 2010, from 6pm – 9pm, we will burn the Koran on the property of Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, FL in remembrance of the fallen victims of 9/11 and to stand against the evil of Islam. Islam is of the devil!”
Dove World Outreach first received media …
… attention back in July of 2009, when they put up signs in front of their church that read “Islam is Of The Devil” and then again in August of last year, when several children of the congregation were sent home from local Gainesville schools after donning bigoted shirts with the same message written on the back.
Surprise, surprise, Islam is of The Devil, is also the title of a book written by none other than Dove World Outreach’s pastor, Terry Jones. It sounds like perhaps someone is trying really hard to get enough attention, even at the expense of using children, to increase sales on his horrific book. Super idea.
In a disturbing Dove Center lunched YouTube video, Pastor Terry Jones can be heard stating:
“I mean ask yourself, have you ever really seen a really happy Muslim? As they’re on the way to Mecca? As they gather together in the mosque on the floor? Does it look like a real religion of joy? No, to me it looks like a religion of the devil.”
Wow, that is some heavy intellectual reasoning!
Even the National Association of Evangelicals is trying to get as far away as possible from the folks over at Dove World Outreach Center. They issued a statement stating:
“The NAE calls on its members to cultivate relationships of trust and respect with our neighbors of other faiths. God created human beings in his image, and therefore all should be treated with dignity and respect,” it said in the statement.
In retaliation against the screwballs over at the outreach, the Islamic advocacy group Council on American-Islamic Relations, has launched a campaign to give out 100,000 copies of the Quran to local, state and national leaders. They are also asking Muslims and supporters to host “share the Quran” dinners to inform the public during the religious holiday of Ramadan which begins in August.
“American Muslims and other people of conscience should support positive educational efforts to prevent the spread of Islamophobia,” said CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper.
My initial reaction upon viewing the highly disturbing Facebook, YouTube, and web page of Dove World was one of utter disgust and anger. Upon pondering the notion that a group of people are so terribly misinformed and filled with rage, all I could, and can still feel, is a deep sense of profound sadness — and mostly I am grieved that I have to share the same corner of the world with these people. Above all I would like to meet Terry Jones’ parents so that we exchange a few words. I am perplexed over how anyone can come to a place in their lives where they feel it is okay to teach hate, or even pass it along inadvertently.
Not surprisingly, Dove World has recently become the subject of investigation over its alleged for-profit enterprise. Pastor Jones appears to be using his Looney tunes church as a tax-exempt business. Not only does he profit from its unpaid members, he also makes a buttload on merchandising and eBay sales. It sounds like there may be an ulterior motive other than spreading the word or Jesus, if you ask me.
Just stay far, far away from the Kool Aid, guys. I heard it gives bellyaches.
All religious zealots are dumb fucks! Did just hear some good news though,that poor little girl who had her nose cut off,is being flown to a reconstructive burn center for a new one,here in the states. She was on Diane Sawyer just smiling away,really made my night!
earlier they killed Prophet Jesus along with Jews and now these Children of Romans are Burning the Holy Quran. Allah will show them their results very soon.
Dear all
Why you all ara against Muslims and Islam. Islam love peace and spread peace. Extremists are everywhere in world and can come from any religion any race. There is no evidence no reports that this has been done by Muslims it is all in air. Media has the power to say whatever it likes. I was reading in paper that you cannot control on the media yes I remember it was in the evidence collection in Digital Forensic Investigation.
So why Islam to be blamed all the time. We are peace and love everyone. We as a muslim every religion and their faith. See Prophet (saww) life how he communicated with non-Muslims and we Muslims believe the same. No hatred for anyone.
I aggree to you my dear. Islam is the relegion of piece and not violence and mistrust. I am a muslim and i respect every body whether he/she is amuslim or not. What Dlorida church is doing something un acceptable
Yes, that’s such great news :-)!!!!
Katie
This is not the great news. This will increase more hate among people. Wisdom is to resolve things in a peaceful way. Quran always say love people irrespective of their religious belief and protect the minorities if they are living under your government.
In my other comment I did mention that extremist are part of every society, every race, every culture and every religion but these are not the symbol or representative of the religion.
Quran is the holy book as bible or any other books. This came not for Muslims but for the whole Humanity. It contain moral, social, scientific and whatever for every single person. U see what Quran say about killing innocent people , ” If someone has killed any innocent person, he has killed the whole Humanity”. Let me tell you this someone is not Muslim, it is for everyone no matter what faith and religion he belongs to.
So I think before saying someone is bad or Quran is not right we need to read and understand the context. If I ask people to give me opinion about me than there will not be 100% +ve or 100% -ve because people will judge me according to what they have perceived from me or they just dealt with me for few minute and build up their views.
So I will request Katie to understand the Quran and then if you think it is wrong , then you have right to say what you like.
Apologies me if I am wrong at any point or hurt you.
Regards
There’s not anything I can say that isn’t blatantly obvious. I’m just so disturbed by their burning of a Koran. That ranks up there with burning a flag or a bible–objects that I personally am not very attached to, but that carry such respect and respect by so many people that its burning is just hateful.
They’re only books,about as sacred as the cheeseburger I just ate for dinner!
They are sacred books. Would you be ok if someone burned the flag? It’s just a piece of fabric, after all.
Burn away,I don’t invest any emotions in icons. But if the American people decide that its against the law,then you have to abide by the consequences.
It is precisely because so many people do invest their emotions in icons that this activity is so troubling.
This is just proving once again that religions are bad for your health.
Religion gets a bad rap, but the fact is we are much better off with it than without. Sure people pervert its aims, and use it to justify all kinds of things. But that is just human nature “the evil in all our souls” if you would. However imagine living in a world with no religious taboos. No guilt, no fear of divine retribution. Sure the anti-religion folks would have you say we would be better off. But if you look at what we do WITH the restraining hand of religion just imagine what we would do if released from it.
All good things that have been done or are done because of religion have also been done and are done continuously by non- religious.
Saying that religion gives us “good taboos” and morals and tells us right from wrong is completely false. Not all atheists are naturally good- but the fact that most atheists are just as good and kind as christians, jews, muslims, hindus… proves that religions teaching good behaviour is a coincidence to people naturally knowing right from wrong. I am a 100% atheist and have no fear of divine retribution but that doesn’t mean I don’t care about my time on earth or what happens to those around me. In fact my lack of faith means that when I do good things for people I am not limited to those who were brought up reading the same book or praying to the same god as I. You can say “jesus said to be nice to each other” but in fact if you read the bible you will see that he is actually telling people to be nice to their own kind. Love thy neighbour excludes anyone who was not jewish. Muslims can say theirs is a religion of love, and that the terrorists are extremists and other muslims are moderate, accepting people- if that’s true then why are most muslim women walking around with only their faces showing? That’s not moderate Islam and it’s not from the Koran. Religions do more harm than good. I don’t blame the catholic church for paedophiles, I don’t blame the muslim church for bombings. But if you can’t blame them for things a small fraction of their members have done then how can you give them credit for good deeds only a small fraction of their members have done?
What do you define as “good” behavior? Because it has varied greatly over the ages. What is good is defined by the society in which you live. The “good” of our society (modern day U.S.) has almost completely been formed by the Judeo-Christian idea of good. I am going to go out on a limb here an assume you have been scarred by someone who espoused religion (not really, feminist site, anti-religion post almost a lock). Don’t let that cloud your judgement. Empathy is not a naturally occurring human trait, it has to be taught, and can easily be lost. Nothing that involves people is lacks selfishness, pettiness and greed, but religion keeps us from raping and eating each other, most of the time.
No, sorry but I don’t agree. I have been brought up in an atheist family, have never attended church and completely oblivious to anything religious-related, and still I never steal, or kill, or lie, and I try to help everyone around me as much as I can. My parents have brought me up with good morals, independently of their beliefs or lack of them. We just happen not to worship a book or a deity.
reply to boringusername- (don’t want the column getting any thinner)
What you’re saying about our idea of “good” being formed by christian values- is complete fantasy. What are you basing that on? Obviously throughout history there have been people who hurt one another and do “bad” things but so there are today, and many of them belong to religions.
I’m going to take the liberty of stating what my morals tell me is good- without religion- and it’s not a very complicated idea and it doesn’t take a super father figure in the sky to reinforce this idea in me- it is that being a good person is to not harm other people, not treat them with cruelty and where you have the ability to help someone in need without endangering yourself, you are obliged to do so.
Where does the bible say that? If you think Jesus said that then you haven’t read the bible. Read it again. The best things Jesus teaches are for Jews to love one another and treat each other with respect- but it doesn’t include other races, countries, cultures or religions. The old testament tells the Jews to go into a city and kill everyone and take it for themselves simply because God had decided to give the Jews that city. The bible may have certain grains of kindness in it but it is predominantly a book of hate and gibberish, full of fearmongery. IF you think the only reason you don’t go around killing people is because you are afraid that when you die you will suffer for it, then that marks you as either a psychopath or else someone completely out of touch with the real reason that motivate you. I hope it is the latter, if it is the former then I hope you never lose your faith! If you watch programs or read books about archaeology, anthropology, ancienty history.. you will find that there are hundreds of remains of humans predating religion and even speech that show serious injuries that have healed years before the person’s death – the only way this is possible is for the rest of the group of humans to have looked after this person although they would have been completely useless to the group and cost valuable food and resources.
I’m not saying that alone proves that humans are good without religion, but it is just one example that comes to mind- and it is based on knowledge as opposed to what you say- that what is good now is only based on christian values, where did you get that information? What is that based on? The fact that there have been cruel people before christians? I challenge you to find something to back that up. What modern goodness is based on Christianity, or any religion and didn’t already exist before that religion?
Are you asking me to find a new type of human behavior that did not exist prior to what 300 AD? That might be a tad difficult. Also I think that trying to argue the existence of god and or the necessity of religion as a layman with someone who was raised to denigrate religion. Might not be the “right” battle to fight. So I will bow out with this last point, atheism is really just the supremacy of ego isn’t it? The dogged belief that you are the best thing in all the universe, faith is the belief that you are not.
What, why the supremacy of the ego? No, I don’t think I am better than everybody else, or the best thing in Universe, but I don’t believe either in an ethereal creature.
what the hell of things they going to do ???
they will have to face consequenses…..
In the name of God, the Lord of Grace, the Ever Merciful
We have assigned to the unbelievers companions who made their past and present seem goodly to them, but the sentence has fallen due upon them together with bygone generations of jinn and humans. They will indeed be lost. The unbelievers say: ‘Do not listen to this Qur’an, but drown it in frivolous talk, so that you may gain the upper hand.’ We shall most certainly give the unbelievers a taste of severe suffering; and We shall most certainly requite them according to the worst of their deeds. Such is the requital of the enemies of God: the fire will be their lasting home: a fit requital for their having knowingly rejected Our revelations. The unbelievers say: ‘Our Lord! Show us those jinn and men who have led us astray. We shall trample them under our feet so that they shall be among the lowest of the low. As for those who say: ‘Our Lord is God,’ and then steadfastly pursue the right way, the angels will descend on them, saying: ‘Have no fear, and do not grieve, but rejoice in the good news of Paradise which you have been promised. We are your guardians in the life of this world and in the life to come. There you shall have all that your souls desire, and all that you ask for, as a ready welcome from Him who is much-forgiving, ever-merciful.’ (Clearly Expounded; Fussilat: 41: 25-32)
The surah shows the unbelievers how God’s power extends over their hearts and minds, even when they are still on earth refusing to believe in Him. Since He is fully aware that their hearts have become corrupt, He lets some evil entities, from among both humans and jinn, befriend them and make what is evil seem fair and goodly. Thus, they lead them astray until they join those who ruin themselves and become liable to punishment: “We have assigned to the unbelievers companions who made their past and present seem goodly to them, but the sentence has fallen due upon them together with bygone generations of jinn and humans. They will indeed be lost.”
They are too proud to worship God when they are subject to His power. Their own hearts lead them to ruin and ultimately to God’s punishment. God allocates them wicked companions who whisper in their ears, assuring them that all the evil they see around them is good, and who present their own bad deeds to them in a fair appearance so that they do not see how foul these are.
Perhaps the worst thing that can happen to man is that he loses his balanced judgement and can no longer see how foul or deviant his actions are. In this way, he perceives everything he does as good and fair. Inevitably, though, this leads him to ruin. When the unbelievers reach this stage, they find themselves among the lost herd of past communities that suffered God’s punishment: “They will indeed be lost.”
One aspect of what such wicked companions persuaded them to do was to fight the Qur’an when they realized how powerful was its argument: “The unbelievers say: Do not listen to this Qur’an, but drown it in frivolous talk, so that you may gain the upper hand.”
The elders of the Quraysh in Makkah used to counsel each other to do just this, and they also persuaded the masses to do the same. They realized that they were no match for the Qur’an, its beauty, power and eloquence: “Do not listen to this Qur’an.” (Verse 26). They claimed that it cast a magical spell over their minds and ruined their lives, causing division between a man and his children or a man and his wife. It is true that the Qur’an causes such division, but only through God’s criterion that separates faith from unfaith, and guidance from going astray. The Qur’an wins people’s hearts so that they no longer value any other bond as they do their bond of faith. Thus, it was known as Al-Furqan, meaning ‘The Criterion’.
“Do not listen to this Qur’an, but drown it in frivolous talk, so that you may gain the upper hand.”
Such frivolity is totally unbecoming, yet it was the result of their knowing that they could not combat the Qur’an with logic or consistent argument. Those who persist in such disbelief can basically do nothing other than drown out the voice of the Qur’an with their own frivolities. They used to do this in a variety of ways: Malik ibn Al-Nadr, for example, used to sit and relate accounts of Rustum and other Persian kings in order to impress people so that they would not listen to the Qur’an, while others used to shout and make noises or recited poetry and rhymes. All this, however, came to nothing while the Qur’an retained its power because it is the word of the truth, and the truth is overpowering.
In response to their singular remark they are given a stern warning: “We shall most certainly give the unbelievers a taste of severe suffering; and We shall most certainly requite them according to the worst of their deeds. Such is the requital of the enemies of God: the fire will be their lasting home: a fit requital for their having knowingly rejected Our revelations.” We soon see them suffering in hell and see how the deluded are so angry with the ones who led them astray. They realize now that it was they who led them to their fate when they persuaded them that their foul deeds were fair and goodly. “The unbelievers say: Our Lord! Show us those jinn and men who have led us astray. We shall trample them under our feet so that they shall be among the lowest of the low.” They are not merely angry with them; they want to exact revenge: “We shall trample them under our feet.” What a contrast with their close friendly ties in this present world.
A different type of bond is that which the believers have. These are the ones who take the right path of endeavour to do only what is good. God assigns to them angels to give them reassurance, bring them the good news of their prospects in heaven and to be their guardians, both in the life of this world and the world to come: “As for those who say: ‘Our Lord is God,’ and then steadfastly pursue the right way, the angels will descend on them, saying: Have no fear, and do not grieve, but rejoice in the good news of Paradise which you have been promised. We are your guardians in the life of this world and in the life to come. There you shall have all that your souls desire, and all that you ask for, as a ready welcome from Him who is much-forgiving, ever-merciful.”
To remain steadfast in pursuing what is entailed by the declaration, ‘Our Lord is God,’ means to keep it alive in one’s conscience, to give proof to it in one’s life and to discharge the responsibilities it imposes. This is serious, important and hard work. Therefore, it deserves the abundant grace God grants them: a friendly relation with angels who, as God tells us, reassure the believers with sweet words: “Have no fear, and do not grieve, but rejoice in the good news of Paradise which you have been promised. We are your guardians in the life of this world and in the life to come.” They also describe heaven to them, knowing that they will have there all that they desire and is pleasing to them. They make it even more inviting and pleasing by saying that it is “a ready welcome from Him who is much-forgiving, ever-merciful.” It is a gift from God and a place assigned to them through His forgiveness and endless mercy.
I don’t want a gift from your God, or from any god for that matter, and stop telling me I’ll find salvation and whatnot. I. Do. Not. Believe. Don’t shove it down my throat. I DON’T CARE.
The true test of atheism is not logic proofs spouted in the blush of youth, but the strength to stare down the long, humiliating decay of age. The tang of lonelyness, the bite of regret. The fear and confusion of life slipping away into the long dark unknown. But I am sure you have a handle on it :)
Well, if my dearest grandfather, who fought a war and lost, is anything to go by, then you can be sure I’ll be an atheist by the time I’m 90, just like him.
This is too cruelty.All thinking that americans are thinking people and social people. This is hateful. I cant tolerate to this
earlier they killed Prophet Jesus along with Jews and now these Children of Romans are Burning the Holy Quran. Allah will show them their results very soon.
I have sat silent here. I honestly have been speechless. I have hoped that someone would bitchslap these idiots at Dove World Outreach.
You can compare this planned burning with someone taking a crap in the middle of St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome. Or writing filth on the Wailing Wall in Israel. then
Does that make it any clearer?
What is going to happen here is that because of the idiocy of these ATTENTION WHORES, innocent people will die. Perhaps not at their church, perhaps not even in Florida, but you can be sure that the extremist elements will seize on this incident as proof of the inherent evil of the American people.
Last night, I was having a discussion with some Iraqi friends of mine (3 male, one female). They had been traveling and had not heard of this news item. Every single one of them were visibly shocked and horrified. The question they asked me was this: “Cannot these people read? If they were to read the Koran, they would see that it is a holy book, a book of wisdom and love, similar to your Bible in many ways”.
It doesn’t matter if you are a religious person or an atheist, it is patently insane to destroy something that is considered sacred by another group purely to inflame them.
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hi folks i cannot wait 4 the expendables to come out! It’s going to be awesome!
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All atheists are DUMB fucks! The publisher of this blog is obviously a mentally retarded moron. Her hate is only matched by her hypocrisy. Joey is also a dumb shit. Haven’t they ever heard:
Do unto others and you do unto yourself.
Of course since they insulted billions of people – I to insult them back to see how they like it.
Goodbye.
Talking smack about Joey = very uncool!
Something tells me he’ll get over it. Likely with a comment referencing leopard print underwear and taking up residence in someone’s mother’s basement.
Today I have some nice floral print on,and I’m in a church basement!
Someone wants an ass kicking, for sure :(
Aww, Jesus must be so proud of you for calling your fellow man ‘dumb fucks’ and ‘mentally retarded morons’ because they have an opinion that differs from yours.
Tool.
I have never understood the hate-on for Atheists, sure they are pompus and annoying. But not really a threat to anybody, unless you count the trees that are sacrificed for countless letters-to-the editor. And long winded “God doesn’t exist” treatises that line bird cages and are used to clean up spills in newspapers and government offices across the world.
For Twin towers WTC destroyed by Jews in Newyork, and blaming it on Muslims, the USA destroyed two Muslim countries IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN
I think the reason I gravitate towards Deism,is they have the wisdom to say that no one knows for sure. Face it,no one does!
Congratulations! The Dove Church has gone ‘cave man’s time’; soon it would not find its place in today’s civilized world. All honest and good people know that Qur’an only gives a message of peace and lead us to salvation. The church is using children for its ill desire of fame; in my opinion it is the biggest social crime.
Just to say, that those who burn the quran, no one will have mercy for them!
hi
you know all american thinks that just there is one world , they think they born to eat , drink , and go to toilet they are all kafirs and they dont know there is a day called resurection day at this day all the people from adam to mohammad peace be upon him will stand aqainst the allah , i think there is still time to accept the islam and leave all this nonsense that is roaming in your dirty minds allah will forgive you , if dont you all mericans will see a dangrous result and there will be no time for mercy .
I’m telling my mom you called me a kafir!
Hello For all the World Muslim !
Don’t worry they can’t do any thing just make thireself wild and crazy
every body knows that what is Islam it is clear .and Allah(God ) says himself in Holy Quran I am keeper and the Gaurd of my Holy Book.so we don’t thing so they can do so.Longlife Islam.peace religion.
Ahmad Zafar Kushan
Blessed are the cheese makers!
I’m lactose intolerant and I take offense to that.
Don’t make me go get the Holy Hand Gernade!
of Antioch!
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Why! Why!! Why do people dislike peaceful co-existence in our world of unity, after all we are all one created from the prophet Adam may Allah be pleased with him? Why on an hourly, daily, weekly, monthly or yearly bases crises have been taken place just because of our selfish interest? It is high time to understand our differences in all respect and try to comply with each other as to know no man can live in isolation both the religions have their day. We have to live interdependently regardless of races, tribes, cultures and others. To greatly achieve both our desires, we must work collectively and in unity. As such this attempt to burning the Holy Qur’an by some selfish interest personalities that is to be made soonest, I have to remind them that this Holy Book is not belonged to anyone besides Allah and they should also know He that owns His book is in a very good condition to protect it.
But finally, they should redigest their mission and find any possible solution. God is not sleeping and stammering
the human race is just an animal. I believe we evolved from primates fear and hate is just a programmed response to our fight or flight instinct.” there is definitely no logic in human behavior” -Bjork
i think there is still time to accept the islam and leave all this nonsense that is roaming in your dirty minds allah will forgive you
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