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May 13, 2010 at 09:28 am by Sarah Taylor-Spangenberg
The disappointment, the drama!
And yes, in case you were wondering, this is a real advertisement for the Christian propaganda-themed Pamela’s Prayer. It’s as bad as — if not worse than — the “don’t talk to strangers” videos that you were shown in third grade. The video was released in 1998 (believe it or not), and recently hit a wave of publicity for the, um, message that it sends to good, Christian kids.
Oh, and you can buy it for nine dollars if you want to add it to the collection of family films that you already own.
Thanks to The Wicked 7 for heads up on this one!
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Huh. I was really thinking 1987.
As with a lot of things, this is not representative of the bulk of christianity. There are definitely those who take it to an extreme, such as no kissing or anything before marriage, but there are also a lot of very decent moderates. Don’t judge a group based on the extreme.
Exactly what I was going to say!
Oh, definitely no judgment on Christianity here; I’m a self-professed Christian myself, but I think even my minister would laugh if he happened to see this video. Well … maybe on the inside, anyway. LOL
Wow. That was a really creepy video.
I’m a Christian, and I’ve humped my way across Texas, and that doesn’t make me a bad person, damnit!
Well Whit, technically the bible condemns premarital sex and adultery and if you’re proud of doing it, then you can’t REALLY be a Christian. I’m not saying that I agree with it, I’m just telling you what the Bible says..
Spoken by someone who doesn’t know what the hell they are talking about. Please show me a passage in the New Testament that says “if you do not follow this word by word or if you commit any sin you are no longer a Christian.” Christians screw up (or others) and doing so doesn’t end their religious affiliation. In fact part of Christian belief is that we all sin no matter how hard we try not to because we are flawed beings. If what you thought is true that would mean that there are no Christians at all anywhere.
Not following one of the rules outlined in the Bible does not remove the ability for someone to label themselves as a Christian. Otherwise, I would dare you to find an actual Christian in existence (maybe besides this guy: http://www.amazon.com/Year-Living-Biblically-Literally-Possible/dp/0743291476).
I believe all that would actually be required would be for one to believe in Christ as the son of God.
(Look at this, an atheist standing up for a Christian!!)
Haha, thank you! I greatly appreciate that. Both you and Aras responded exactly how I was about to.
Jessica, I make mistakes every day. So does everyone else. However, I believe that Christ is the son of God and I try to be a good person. I never said I was “proud” of having had premarital sex. I’m definitely not ashamed of it, though. I’ve learned from my mistakes, though not all my sexual escapades were mistakes. And who said I was adulterous? Did I ever say that? That’s not something I would ever do, be unfaithful to the man I marry.
Don’t tell me I can’t REALLY be a Christian. Judge not, that ye be not judged. And don’t “tell me” what the Bible says. I’ve read it. Thanks.
Well it definitely SOUNDS like you’re proud when you say, “I’ve humped my way across Texas!” If you were truly sorry for it, you wouldn’t make such light of it. Of course God forgives sins. That’s why Jesus died on the cross. But the point of that was for MISTAKES. Are you saying that you “accidently” had sex over and over again to the person you weren’t married to? I’m not sure God appreciates it when people sin, and know that they are sinning while they are doing it, and then thinking that they can just pray for forgiveness.
yeah, i’m christian too, and i think one of the big things is for christians not to judge other christians. what’s between whit and god is just that — between whit and god. she doesn’t need others preaching to her when she obviously has a pretty good idea of what religion and her relationship with god means to her.
The Year of Living Biblically was a good book – and really pointed out how trying to live in today’s society does not mesh with dictates from the Old Testament. I got quite a few laughs from it, especially when A.J.’s wife would sit on every chair in the house when she was menstruating just to thwart him.
But really now? This video is weird and creepy.
Well, I’m not a christian (although I grew up in a very strictly christian household) and I’m not judging her either. I’m just pointing out what I learned from the Bible. I think you can screw whoever you want and as much as you want. I don’t agree with practically anything the Bible says. I do try to live my life as a good person and I want to be proud of the kind of person I am, but I (personally) think that you can’t accurately call yourself a christian if you are sleeping around.
well if you’re not a christian, maybe you should better try to understand the way the religion works before giving advice. there’s nothing worse than someone talking about someone and doling out advice without truly knowing what they’re talking about. no offense meant, naturally.
Wow, Jessica! Thank you for telling me what God does and doesn’t appreciate! Glad you could clear that up for me.
“I humped my way across Texas” was a statement of truth, not a gloating, bragging spiel of how awesome I think I am. And I didn’t SAY I was sorry for it! I don’t feel like I need to be sorry for certain things I’ve done. I learned from each one of those experiences and they’ve come in quite handy during the awesome sex I have with my fiancee now. Also, what I do with my life and my body is between myself and God, like Jules pointed out. I’ve never been married, and the men that I’ve slept with weren’t dating or married to anyone at the time, so it would be great if you eased up off my back about it. I, personally, don’t feel like I’ve done anything wrong, and I don’t have to justify my actions to YOU. I’ll talk to God about it, and guess what? That’s not a conversation to which you’ll be invited.
Except that I DO know a lot about it, given that I had to go to church for the first 18 years of my life. I know waaaayyy to much about it.
Defensive much? I don’t want to know anything about your sex life, thank you.
And Blurry, I agree. It IS hard to live the way the Bible says to in today’s society. Too crazy for me.
Yes, defensive. When someone who doesn’t know me comes out of the woodwork and tells me that I can’t call myself a Christian, I’m going to take offense. As far as I know, all it REALLY takes to be a Christian is to accept that Jesus Christ is the son of God and that he died on the cross for our sins. I DO believe that. I don’t care if you do or do not, it’s none of my business, but don’t tell me that I can’t call myself a Christian because I’ve slept around.
The problem, though, is that you’re pointing at The Bible and saying “But it says THIS,” without taking into account that the Bible you’re looking at has been translated in and out of 5 different languages over the past 2000 years by people working from manuscripts that were copied and re-copied by guys who couldn’t read because they farmed goats for a living.
Which is to say, maybe the Bible ISN’T as hard-lined about “how to live in today’s society” as you think. And, that maybe what a given person SAYS the Bible says is more of an indicator of what that PERSON is like rather than what they say THE BIBLE is like.
Which all means, you may wanna consider that not everyone has a bug up their butt over the fact that their mom made them go to church on Sunday and they actually GET something out of Christianity, so perhaps some respect is in order.
Jessica your ignorance on the Christian religion while doling out advice on it offends me. Just because you sat in a church doesn’t mean you have any idea what you are talking about just like sitting in a garage doesn’t make you mechanic. Just because you sat and listened to someone who might or might not have known what they were preaching about doesn’t mean you have a firm grasp on the religion. Which I personally don’t believe you do. The fact that you said Jesus died to forgive people for their mistakes proves how misguided you are. The Bible and Christian doctrine say Jesus died for his believers sins, not mistakes. If he only died for mistakes and not for sins that would mean everyone who believes the Christian faith but told a white lie (because all lies are sins and white lies are intential not mistakes) would not be forgiven and therefore go to hell. Before you start preaching again about what you “know” I suggest you brush up what is in Bible or maybe have someone explain it to you.
Whit’s sexual activies are between her and God and that doesn’t make her any less of a follower of Christianity.
Whit, you may be my hero. To hump across Texas (especially East to West) is no small feat!
I don’t believe in organized religion and I don’t care if people have premarital sex or not. I think the wait until you’re married thing is just so bizarre and nearly impossible to live up to. I admire the people who are able to wait until marriage, but I don’t think those of us who engaged in premarital woo flinging deserve to be smited for it.
Whit, I’m pretty much in the same boat with you on this one.
Except, in lieu of humping my way across Texas (or in this case Indiana), I’ve only had sex with one person–the love of my life, who I happen to be marrying in a few months.
But otherwise, pretty similar.
Thanks! I respect your one-man status! That’s pretty damn impressive if you ask me! You’ll probably be a little ahead of me in the Heaven Line. :)
God will smite the fornicators!
The way the dad is talking to Pamela its almost as if he wants to kiss her…ewwww….>.<
That was cheesy and creepy. In equal amounts.
The entire concept of asking the question “who does your dad want you to marry?” creeps me the fuck out.
The entire purity movement is based on the premise that a girl’s father is responsible for maintaining the girl’s “purity” until he hands it over to her husband. It makes me ill.
That really gave me the heebie jeebies. I feel like I need to take a shower.
Ew, you know Pamela’s dad got all touchy feely with her. Those intense molester eyes!
They didn’t show the kiss because it was the most awkward, gross kiss in the world.
BAHAHAHAHA fucking crazypants Christians… oh dear. Yes, dad, I want my husband to have been with other women, because quite frankly, I expect him to know what he is up to when we are in bed. I don’t wanna teach him the basics.
Hahaha not even kissing? Whoever lives by that rule does really deserve whatever outcome their marriage has.
Bloody crazypants.
Sigh. Not kissing (or fucking, in my ever-so humble opinion) leads to a marriage of sexual frustration and a very high likelihood that you’re going to end up with someone woth either wants to have sex (or kiss…whatever) 4x as often as you do, or never. But I’m a godless feminist heathen, so what do I know :)
I know lots of Christians who aren’t corny, creepy or trapped in the 80s, why couldn’t they have used them in this ridiculous movie??
I think I broke the kissing rule at about age 5 when Phillip played ‘kissing machine’ with all the girls in my class, I guess that’s why my wedding kiss felt so wrong…wait that’s because my grandma was watching.
Hahaha, “kissing machine!” You just can’t trust that Phillip! :)
This video is the creepiest thing I’ve ever seen. I would NOT be cool with my Dad sitting that close to me on the couch, staring deep in to my eyes, asking me how I envision laying with my husband on our wedding night.
That sounds like the opening to a porn film.
HAH! Oh man, I seriously laughed out loud… because it’s true… ew ew ew ew ew
This video made my day. In that creepy yet hysterically funny and wrong sort of way. Man, having your first kiss on your wedding day would be awful. I know ONE person who actually truly had a good first kiss, and turns out the guy was gay. My first kiss was kinda gross…I think that had to do with my at-the-time-boyfriend’s kind of face engulfing method though…
Two words – daddy issues.
Did you know that there isn’t any historical evidence that Jesus ever existed. The sun of God,born of a virgin,savior of the world story started thousands of years earlier. It can be found in most ancient pagan societies.
You’re such a shit disturber!
Let focus on what this video is really about: bad acting, even worse hair, and the not so subtle metaphor that equates poor Pamela’s lips to her hymen.
LOL…good old hymen lips Pammy.
Dude, you are just going to be ALL OVER tomorrow’s Zingers. LOL
I thought I was watching Twin Peaks.
Hahahaha!
While I may personally think that religion in an engine of ignorance that serves a primary purpose of extorting money and/or support from people that might not otherwise give it, I also think that a person’s beliefs are their own business.
That being said, while the occasional relationship may be able to flourish without physical contact, the vast majority of people will find themselves unfulfilled. Physical and sexual compatibility can be as important as emotional or intellectual compatibility. In my personal opinion, you should be physical with your partner before you decided to spend the rest of your life with someone. I also think you should live with them (something many Muslims and Christians have a problem with) first as well, since there are a plethora of issues that arise from living with a person that you don’t get otherwise. You may find that you can’t stand sharing space with someone that you otherwise like being with (a good thing to know before you make a lifetime commitment). But that’s just my opinion, if doing it some other way works for you, more power to you…
Do you want to go camping?
This blows my mind. My mind was totally blown when I was watching that show about the crazies with 19 children and the first time their oldest son had kissed a girl was at his wedding.
I was wondering if someone would bring up the Duggar family. What’s interesting, is that Michelle had kissed a boy before her husband. Not sure about Jim Bob, but seeing as how he encouraged Michelle down the same super conservative christian path he was on….
So they themselves didn’t follow this tenant, but they have raised their children with that expectation. The extreme sheltering of those kids, while at the same time exploiting them, it’s a strange concept.
Thank God I didn’t marry the first guy I kissed…let alone the other things I did pre-maritally. I think it’s not so much that your past be ultra spottless for your husband/wife, but that you both give 110% in your lives once you’re committed.
And I would NOT have gone on a second date and go on to eventually marry my husband if he were a poor kisser and as far as I know, there is only 1 way to learn…
@Jess, see below post….Exaclty what I said….No way I would want to marry someone I hadn’t slept with. What happens if there is no sexual chemistry? How far we’ve come.
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Wow small world. My hubby are traveling back East right now and are attending a family wedding while here. Just met the bride and groom yesterday, and there first kiss will be at the alter.
My hubby was like “I may be gullible, but come on”…His mother *88 years old and him both thought it was a joke.
Man, aside from the rest of it, who the hell would want their first kiss to be in front of everyone they know? If I really did believe that I shouldn’t even kiss a guy until we’re married, you can bet the kiss would be saved for later, in private.
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