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And this is only one of many reasons why we cannot tolerate domestic violence under any circumstances:
A Florida man threw a 4-month-old boy out the window of a moving car Tuesday after a fight with the infant’s mother, investigators said. Police say infant Emanuel Murray died after his mother’s ex-boyfriend threw him from a car on a Florida interstate.
Emanuel Murray’s body was found by a passing motorist on Interstate 275 early Tuesday morning, the Hillsborough County Sheriff’s Department said. His mother’s ex-boyfriend, 20-year-old Anthony McTear Jr., has been charged with first-degree murder, the department said.
Police went to the mother’s apartment about 3:15 a.m. The mother, Jasmine Bedwell, 18, told investigators that McTear hit her several times and threatened “to kill the both of y’all,” the sheriff’s department said in a statement announcing the charges.
McTear threw a car seat containing the child across the room during the fight, causing the boy to fall onto the apartment’s concrete floor, investigators said. He then picked up the boy and drove off in his car, throwing the child out while on the interstate, according to the sheriff’s department.
The child’s body was found about 4:30 a.m. An autopsy showed the boy died of blunt trauma to the head, the county medical examiner’s office said.
McTear is not related to the child, sheriff’s spokeswoman Debbie Carter said.
A CNN crew got video of McTear being led out of the police car following his arrest. When asked by reporters if he had thrown the child out of the car window, McTear answered, “It’s a dirty game. A dirty game.”
How do we fix this? Where do we start? I have no idea.
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Wow. Who does stuff like this? He himself should be thrown of the back of the truck. Imagine if the people who murder were put to death in the same manner of how they killed their victims. Maybe a lot less people would be murdered.
oh, geez… this happened in Tampa where I live while I am not being opressed by ‘professors’ at ‘university’. this is a horrible story. Domestic violence has been around for a really long time, but I guess right now is the time we go after it, just like every other civil rights movement. It seems like our world doesn’t really value life anymore.
How do we fix it?
First of all the mother is only 18. It means she got pregnant approximately a year earlier, at 17. At this age all women should study! She had no business having a baby in the first place. McTear is already an ex-boyfriend. It means between Emanuel’s conception and death she had changed partners at least once. Think about it, the time spun is only 13 months. I am not prude, but where woman has nothing to offer to the society but her body, things like that happen all the time. Just imaging the level of self esteem poor girl has. It must be way below the Dead Sea.
My opinion: FOR GOD’S SAKE MAKE ALL GIRL’S GO TO SCHOOL UNTIL THEY 20. Give them condoms everyday! Make plan B pill available to each and everyone. Who knows if miss McTear some 20 years ago, had a choice, if she knew of the responsibility that comes with not having a sexual intercourse, but with having a baby, we would be reading a totally different story right now.
one thing I would like to point out is you don’t know when this person (he is certainly not any type of MAN) became her ex. He could have been before the child was born, after – at any time. We don’t know the situation other than that this person is horrible and did horrible things to the woman and then killed the poor innocent child. Yes, she may have low self esteem because she ended up in an abusive relationship, but the fact that he is an ex says something about her as well. She is young, maybe she has been with more than one man. Big deal. I think focusing on that is the least of the issue here.
noid droid: OMG! I agree wth everything that you said, but you are not putting any responsibility on the murderer. Teen pregnancy is ramped in this country! But, how can they resist when they are pounded by sex everywhere around them. Sex commercials like ONLINE BOODY CALL, CIALIS – THAT CAN MAKE YOU BIGGER AND LAST LONGER, VIVA LOS VEGAS VIAGRA and they go on and on and on. We’ve got people walking down the street with their pants down around their asses, which comes from prisons to advertise that they are willing to accept anal sex! But then when a black man, who has raped and sodomized a 12 year old child and killed another person is killed himself by police while fleeing a routine traffic stop, the black community rises up and calls this man a “hero”!!!!! I am no Bible thumper, but I do believe in God. And it seems to me that the farther we get away from just the basic beliefs… The worse things become. Remove God from this, take the 10 commandments off of that… remove , remove, remove… The more they remove the worse things have gotten and the worse the are going to get.. 1+1=2 or cause and effect call it what you will but the outcome is the same.
Also, a bit unrelated, but I am tired of people talking about what the so-called black community values. I’m not even sure what baggy pants and race have to do with this at all.
” the black community rises up and calls this man a “hero”!!!!!”
I live by Oakland. It was NOT the entire black community. You are so gross.
“We’ve got people walking down the street with their pants down around their asses, which comes from prisons to advertise that they are willing to accept anal sex!”
What are you smoking and where can I get some?
Yea… i thought they wore jumpsuits in prison
Oh really? I have a feeling if I propositioned these fellows for some of that they’d kill me. That’s just a crazy theory though.
Ummm, so she killed her baby by being a slut? Or did she kill her baby by simply having the baby in the first place?
Loaded questions?
I think completely fair questions. The implication I read was that she wouldn’t have had to worry about dead baby if she hadn’t had a baby at all. Along with, she wouldn’t have had a baby if she hadn’t been sleeping around at such a young age. I don’t understand why people lay the responsibility for teen pregnancy squarely with the female. Nor do I understand how your proposed solution would fix the actual problem of an abusive and murderous ex-partner.
Totally agree with ill79. Explain your reasoning or stop making ridiculous statements.
how does making women not have children young = making men NOT THROW BABIES OUT OF MOVING CARS???????
way to blame the victim.
oh, oh, oh, turns out none of this would have happened if he didn’t THROW A FREAKING BABY OUT OF A CARRRRRRRR. I’m sorry. Did you miss that part? Did we read the same article?
Why is everything on women’s shoulders? Why should we be responsible for everything? You think women need to be segregated from the general population because… because one day their ex boyfriend may throw a baby out of a car?
Super great argument.
This is horrific! People in America are in an uproar about non-lethal torture. Let me ask you this? Do you think this man needs to be tortured? I do!!!! Locking this man away and supporting him for the rest of his life with taxpayers money is not justice! It also does not serve as an example for others who are inclined to perform other horrendous crimes like this. Someone needs to take this man into a public venue and he torture him slowly until he is dead. If not until death then he needs to be tortured daily until he dies of natural causes. This would not only eliminate one more leach on the government but would make someone else who might do something like this think twice!
What kind of human being can take a 4 month old baby and throw it out a window like a piece of trash? This man is a product of today’s society! You can say what you want but if this is an indicator of things to come, I think that we are going in the wrong direction.
I have to agree with you one hundred percent, BD. One. hundred. percent.
Didn’t you just say on that torture v. evangelicals post that you don’t condone torture ever?
so is this guy a monster, or a “product of today’s society”? who are you blaming here? if his actions are a result of his environment, is it really fair to inflict pain on him? and what kind of person can inflict torture on another human, whether or not that person is guilty of something as shitty as this? who would want that on their conscience?
Jinx, I would be glad to volunteer to inflict pain on this individual! Do you have any children? I guarantee that if it was your child that got thrown out of the window like trash, you would be johnny on spot to make the first cut! And yes, he is a product of his / our society… My point is that is no excuse and that we need to look at changing the enviroment since this is apparently where it leading us! He and people like him need to be made examples of… The punishment needs to fit the crime… And like today, locking them up and allowing them to suck off of the taxpayers dollars does not fit his crime. What incentive does any person have not to commit a violent crime like this if he knows that his punishment is going to be being put in an institution with others like himself, being allowed to watch TV, never having to work or struggle for food or shelter and never haveing to worry about if his children are going to be fed… Yea, that’s really a punishment. Why don’t you ask the mother what she thinks should be done to him… I would be willing to bet that she would not say.. “ Lets put him up in a big building, take care of all of his needs, make it so he will never have to work and allow him to watch cable TV all day… Hell that’s a freaking reward not a punishment!
i’m sure everyone with a pulse wants this guys balls on a spike, but “making examples” of people like this is just not an effective crime deterrent. people still commit crimes in countries where you can be executed for much less.
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Torment and public humiliation are far better deterrents than execution. The stocks should never have gone away.
“would make someone else who might do something like this think twice! “. I don’t think he thought of death penalty when he threw the baby seat over the concrete floor, he was blinded by rage. Many murders are committed in the spur of the moment and it doesn’t matter how tough sentences are, people will still kill and then think.
I think you’re absolutely correct mireee.
My uncle worked in a medium/maximum security prison in PA and he said the reason most of the violent guys were in there was anger management issues. They didn’t care about the consequences when they were beating / killing / raping someone until after the act was done.
In addition, guess who will be paying for his lawyer!! Us, the taxpayers…hmmm…what excuse are they going to use for this one?
BD – I’d like to put this jackass in a ring with you for 2 minutes….Hell, I’d like to have 2 minutes of his ass…
If you think that I don’t put any responsibility on the murderer you are wrong, as it is stated in the article, his possible sentence is premeditated murder, first degree. I am not sure, but it is either life or an execution. I don’t agree with the later, I think he should spend his life in prison. However, especially because of, there is a certain pressure on the young to be sexually explicit, to advertise yourself as a sexual being etc. Plus the sexual behavior seems to be a natural way of life for a young adults. As one of the above commentators noted “she had multiple partners-big deal”, I absolutely agree with that. I too had my share of partners, I to changed them, but! somehow sex and childbirth was separated in my upbringing. And it supposed to be so!
There is sex and there is children. You are in control here.
I say again! Women clinics should be open for everyone! Condoms should be available to everyone!Common sense says it is not a good idea to bring a man with certain traits in the character or life style in your life period. Especially when you just had a baby. Let this notion to settle down in young(not so/obviously to old girls minds.
Yes, We don’t know when McTear became her ex., but he had access to her and her son nevertheless. That is where tragedy nested itself, in a way Emanuel and his Mum were doomed this way or the other.
BD. if teens want sex they would. I say let them show their anuses as much as they want, just let them avoid teen pregnancies. Especially when the older generation is not present in their lives. Did you notice there was no mentioning of any support from the family to the young mother and her child. Call me bitch, but all of the parties involved, including McTear, would have benefited greatly from an early termination.
I am so angry when I read something like that happened again. The only way we can fix it, prevent it, if our daughters would realise there are much more to a woman than her looks or how many men she made fall in love with her. How bloody effing stupid to end life in this way or carry a loss that big, what a waste of lives this “dirty game” is.
“Did you notice there was no mentioning of any support from the family to the young mother and her child. Call me bitch, but all of the parties involved, including McTear, would have benefited greatly from an early termination.”
Just because the article didn’t mention her parents or support system doesn’t prove it doesn’t exist.
In a situation where a child is killed in a car accident, or dies of cancer, or chokes to death, would the family still have benefited from an early termination? Ask the families, and they will say they were glad to have their child for what time they did. A person cannot know if and when their child will be taken from them. To suggest that she would have been wiser to abort her baby because it could possibly get murdered is ridiculous – how could she foresee that? She may have known her situation was not ideal, but wanted to make it work.
Sorry, but I must disagree. You said, I to changed them, but! somehow sex and childbirth was separated in my upbringing. And it supposed to be so! It is not… They whole reason behind sex is to create children. You can disagree with other peoples views but SEX MAKES BABIES.. Pure and simple… It is a biological fact. Some people may want to separate church and state but sex and babies can not be disputed. Now, people may have a hormonal drive to have sex but the reason that they do is so that they will be driven to perpetuate the species. However, you may have hit on something. The new “enlightened thinking” of the world that sex is separate from childbirth is probably the reason that there are so many teen mothers that are unable to support their children financially or emotionally. The government has taken natural selection out of the equation. If it weren’t for the government, a teen having a child, with out great family support, would not be able to support herself and the child there by causing one or both of them to perish. Children Aka teens should not be having sex! They are children for God sake! And just throwing birth control at them is not going to fix the problem. Even if they were to use birth control, none of them are 100% effective. It starts at home, and although some teens may still have sex, they need to be informed that the possible outcome could be dyer…. Saying that sex is separate from childbirth is like saying air is separate from breathing….
BD, I need you to remember back to when……we were teenagers!! I know it was longer ago for me than you! At what age did you become sexually active? I was brought up in a two parent household, was an honor roll and national honor society student, was brought up with fairly strong Christian faith and was told not to have sex until marriage. Did I listen? NO….Like a lot of teenagers today.
I do agree with you about society’s views on teen pregnancy today. It’s treated like it’s no big deal, babies raising babies. I don’t think teaching abstinance is the answer, it’s pretty well proven that it doesn’t work. We have become a very sexual society and guess what, it started with “our generation”. The free love of the 60’s and 70’s Remember? Only difference is we have lived a large portion of our life, made our mistakes and learned from them. I don’t know what the answer is….I think education is the best shot we have.
Sure from the biological sense, sex is the act that results in reproduction, of replenishing the human race, but even back in the early 1900’s porn was made. Porn has nothing to do with reproduction, but pleasure. So, I guess I have to agree with noid_droid there is a difference between childbirth and sex.
Reality check: you and people who think like you are the reason why there are so many teenage pregnancies. Your refusal to teach sex education means young people don’t know what a condom is. I have safe sex with my boyfriend and with all the sexual partners I have had, and I am not, nor have ever been, pregnant. Why? Because my parents taught me about the pill, condoms and any other contraception methods. Nowadays sex is separate from childbirth because of that miracle that contraception is.
agreed a lot with Miree. I have had sex for the better part of a decade and have had ZERO pregnancies. Condoms and pills work a lot better than just praying to God to not get knocked up… or thinking that when you tell people to not have sex, they will actually not do it.
I’ve had tons of sex, and I credit condoms with preventing pregnancy in every case.
hahahhahah
In my family extended family guess how many teen births there were? NONE! A big fat “0″….. Same thing in my wifes family… First of all, we weren’t allowed to be without our parents long enough to have sex and if we were they knew where we were at all times. Also, if we were ever caught doing something like that we would have had our asses beaten to the point that we wouldnt have tried it again untill we were grown and own our own! So, if any of us were to have had sex, we would have made damn sure we would never have gotten caught, EX: getting pregnant! Now I had friends that got pregnant. They are my friends and I love them dearly, but they came from homes where both parents worked and didn’t know where or what they were doing most of the time… And both of their parents, back then, didn’t have to work… They wanted a nicer house and nicer cars to drive… If you ask my friends now, they will tell you that they love their kids but wish they would have waited to have kids and that it was lack of supervision that gave them the oportunity to have sex…
BD this why I am a feminist. For me to have children is a totally different thing from having sex. Yes, the process is the same up to the point, but the outcome is different. Besides, and I don’t want to sound utterly vulgar, sex is not only an intercourse, a penetration in its basic sense, it is much more than that. It is part of being human. Children=sex, I believe this formula would not work ever.
On the other hand, having no sex at all ALWAYS yields zero children. Accidents happen.
and having no sex is having no fun :(
jinx, you said, i’m sure everyone with a pulse wants this guys balls on a spike, but “making examples” of people like this is just not an effective crime deterrent. people still commit crimes in countries where you can be executed for much less. If you are refering to some third world countries that cut off people hands that steal food because they are hungry or because their faimalies are hungery I agree…. But those same counties have such crazy laws they will also stone you if you have sex with someone that you are not married to!
BD,mate, please, no cultural patronizing, it is so rather boring… There is no such thing as “some third world country” with “such crazy laws” etc. There is no such thing as one country is better than the other.
Iran’s laws are pretty crazy
haha true
Idk we have some crazy ones too, such as where I live (tucson arizona) women legally cannot wear pants. And donkeys cannot sleep in bathtubs. And any misdemeanor commited while wearing a red mask is upgraded to a felony. I know those are just silly examples but every place has stupid laws and someplace else will always be more advanced then your home in some way.
Do they hang women from a crane in Tuscon if they wear pants? Are you sure that’s even really a law on the books, and not just an email forward?
There was just a story in the news about a girl who was raped and because she wasn’t a virgin anymore they stoned her to death.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7708169.stm
Happened in november last year. Don’t say there’s no such thing as third world countries with crazy laws when BD was making reference to an actual news store. People don’t always make up their examples.
news story*
They live by the law of Sharia, it is cultural, it is old and it is the way of life as far as they are concerned. Yes it is unacceptable, but many laws and common sense in your life Abbi, also is ruled by Christianity, even if you are atheist.
I think to call something that is “crazy” just because it is “third country” is cultural patronization and is wrong. It is wrong because we “the first world” supposed to be better, we cannot torture people that committed horrendous crimes and we know that abstinence from sex does not work. Thus we don’t stone people for having it! But why would you think they that “crazy” “third world” people did it in the first place? They wanted abstinence from sex! Something BD for example strongly believes in. Just think of it. There is no abortions in those “third world countries” with “crazy” laws. No babies flying out of cars. No teens showing their anuses on public. Virtually no drugs, no prostitution and no porn. But why? People who believed in “purity”, in “virginity”, in babies=sex, won and to enforce their believe they wrote Sharia and this is what we all find “crazy”. However, here is BD, a nice guy, hard working dad, who believes that abstinence is everything and it is better for everyone to have a shag only if we want babies. In my opinion, I am deeply truly sorry, but I dare to have one, darling BD is in Dark Ages and for him to talk of “third world countries” with “crazy” laws at the same time saying he would go and torture another human being gladly and willingly is a tat tasteless. Especially if we living in “the first world” where is no “crazy” laws.
BD, please do not take it as an offense. You have your opinion I respect that, I just thought you went way over the line with generalizations of countries and cultures you probably have no idea about.
Ditto copa. Thank you for informing about the red mask thingy. I will never commit misdemeanor in Arizona wearing my famous red mask.
Copa, are you serioius? Thats so weird! Those are probably laws left over from long ago… Where I grew up, in Arkansas, (shut up! no Arkansas jokes!) you can not legally get out of your car on the drivers side. It is supposed to spook the horses.. Its left over from looong ago.
You can’t compare a three month old baby with Rihanna.
She’s not. She’s comparing Rihanna to the mother. Way to catch that one. She saying what is Rihanna wasn’t the only person in that car and there was a child involved. The fact that children get involved in domestic disputes is why we have to keep talking about it.
yo, looky here, he waz a dumb bro, but yu know what i’m sayin, he waz a product of his hood. If da government gives them better homes dey wouldn’t need to half so many kids wiff different bro’s. you know what i sayin. airight, gets it scrait, he needs to do his time, cuz da glove fit.
For the record and before anyone accuses me! I am NOT Lerofus Williams!
uh huh
One human takes the life of another human. The rest are details that only add to the coldness of the crime. Since the mother didn’t actively participate (or inactively, for that matter) her situation is of no importance. We no very little about her and what we do know has nothing to do with the facts. Get off her back – doesn’t she have a hard enough life as it is?
I agree with EvlMcgyver. The mother is one of the victims and we are talking about her as if she is the monster. Just imagine what she must be feeling. We got off on a tangent. Sorry,,,, For all of he difference between women and men, feminists and people who are sane, there are some things that we do have in common. The need for food, water and the love of another person. This poor girl has just lost the most important person in her life. I imagine that she is blaming herself for this atrocity. She needs our support. The world need our help in creating ways to keep things like this from continuing to happening. I personally believe that, no matter how angry a person becomes, before they commit such a violent act, their future will pass before their eyes before committing it. I myself have been very angry in my younger days. I have experienced a fit of rage and wanted to kill a person. Then my the way that my life would have turned out flashed before my eyes. Being in prison, even though the person deserved it. Not being able to see my kids or being able to watch them grow up. What my children, wife and my parents would experience if I were to commit this crime, etc…. So, I did not do it. So, yes, I do think that there are strong enough punishment to keep people from committing unthinkable crimes. Its just that life in prison doesn’t seem that bad to some, in fact, to some it is desirable and is even seen as a right of passage. Death is over too fast. It has always been seen as the easy way out. Living is the hard part. I don’t believe that he should be put to death. I think he needs to suffer the same unbearable pain that the mother is going to be forced to feel. Therefore I feel he needs to be tortured.